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Awry Barux
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.11.26 19:16:00 -
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I'm hearing a lot of rhetoric flying back and forth on what constitutes morally upright use of the logistics suit and evil "slayer" usage. I'm pretty unclear on where the line is between the two, so I'm going to post a few fits and I want you to tell me whether you consider them an "abuse" of the logi suit, and why.
Fitting 1:
Logistics M/1
1x CRW-04 Scrambler Rifle
1x Core Locus Grenade
1x Ishukone Nanohive
1x N-11/A Flux Drop Uplink
1x A-45 Quantum Active Scanner
1x Complex Light Damage Modifier
3x Basic Armor Plates
Fitting 2:
Logistics M/1
1x Gek-38 Assault Rifle
1x M1 Locus Grenade
1x Allotek Nanohive (R)
1x Stable Drop Uplink
1x A-45 Quantum Active Scanner
2x Basic Shield Extender
1x Complex Light Damage Modifier
1x Enhanced Cardiac Regulator
2x Basic Armor Plates
Fitting 3:
Logistics M/1
1x 'Dren' Assault Rifle
1x Core Locus Grenade
1x Allotek Nanohive (R)
1x Wiyrkomi Triage Nanohive
1x A-45 Quantum Active Scanner
3x Basic Shield Extender
3x Basic Armor Plates
Fitting 4:
Logistics M/1
1x Charge Sniper Rifle
1x M1 Locus Grenade
1x Ishukone Gauged Nanohive
1x Stable Drop Uplink
3x Complex Damage Modifier
1x Enhanced CPU Upgrade
2x Basic Armor Plates
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Awry Barux
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
381
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Posted - 2013.11.26 19:38:00 -
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R F Gyro wrote:First three look like proper support logi suits to me.
The sniper fit isn't really a support logistics, though I have a pretty similar fit myself. A 2x equipment scout suit would be a better (more "thematic") basis for that, if one exists.
What really matters is your playstyle though.
If they took away all but one equipment slots, would you still use the logi suit? If so, you are probably more of an assault logi, and chances are that at some point CCP will make changes that will result in you switching to an assault suit.
If they gimped the weapon on the suit, would you still use it? If so, you are probably a support logi.
Either of those changes would make me abandon the suit. I would happily sacrifice high and low slots (AKA EHP), even my grenade slot, to keep the ability to have 3 pieces of equipment and a competitive light weapon on the same suit. |
Awry Barux
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
381
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Posted - 2013.11.26 20:20:00 -
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R F Gyro wrote:Awry Barux wrote:Either of those changes would make me abandon the suit. I would happily sacrifice high and low slots (AKA EHP), even my grenade slot, to keep the ability to have 3 pieces of equipment and a competitive light weapon on the same suit. If losing some weapon effectiveness would make you abandon triple equipment slots by moving to a different suit then I'd say you are an assault logi.
I mean... losing "some" weapon effectiveness would be fine. 10% damage drop? 15%? 20%? No problem. Weapons cost double fitting requirements? Also fine. But the only suggestion I've heard for reducing logi weapon effectiveness is a restriction to sidearms only, which... no. 20 meters is not an acceptable range for self defense. |
Awry Barux
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
382
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Posted - 2013.11.26 20:30:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:You use Dmg mods on a logi suit.
Therefore yes, you are a murder logi.
My alternative module is what, though? 22hp basic shield extenders, since I don't have the SP or PG (after nanohives and uplinks) for complex? Those are useless. So are precision enhancers, shield rechargers/energizers, myofibrils, and literally every other high slot module. Damage mods are literally the only worthwhile high slot module.
I'd love to see a high-slot speed/stamina module, or a high-slot fitting upgrade module, or maybe as someone-I-forget-who suggested, tie scanner precision to suit precision to encourage me to run precision enhancers. |
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